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03 Jun Meluhha: the Indus Civilization and Its Contacts with Mesopotamia



Meluhha: the Indus Civilization and Its Contacts with Mesopotamia
Mark Kenoyer, University of Wisconsin, Madison

Meluhha — the name for the Indus civilization found in Mesopotamian texts — was an important source of exotic goods, many of which are preserved in the archaeological record of Mesopotamia. The movement of people and goods between these two regions established a pattern of interaction that continued in later periods and is still seen today. This lecture presents an overview of the Indus civilization and its contact with the Mesopotamia during the forth to second millennia BC.

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  • David Prange
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    Outstanding. Any updates? Mom attended UC pre WW2, and the family interest in archeology and anthropology is everlasting. What were the sea levels? Maps of extinct rivers would be nice too. Water development and storage… I have seen other documentaries focusing on the submerged occupations and ancient rivers, but an updated 2-3 part series bringing it all together would be great!

  • Thomas F.
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    Fantastic. Wonderful presentation & info

  • brunogens
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    Fantastic, thanks for sharing. Amazing how we now are able to gather actual evidence on their life thanks to technology like isotopes or Dna locii. Also, on the topic of decoding the langage without rosetta stone, have you heard of this promising machine learning unsupervised technology that enables to translate say french into english without a parallel corpora ? Just by identifying the patterns of the langage. Accuracy is close to Google translate "original" version (before ML) which was very décent. I'll post a link to the publication

  • Idge Of Reason
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    THis lecture was great. I think Mari is really important and was a diplomatic and trade centre for a lot longer than we know. Its nice to be able to synthesise these periods and places and I enjoyed this lecture very much.

  • Seema's Music Paradise Enlightenment
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    Indus is the Tamil civilization that was an extension after the lemurian…this may sound as a myth..but if anyone can correlate the time and the history the anaswer would be clear….Tamil being the oldest language and the civilization as well…the recent findings at the archaeological site keezhadi in Tamil Nadu has proven Artifacts of Tamizhi scripts that are found on the artifacts of Indus valley civilization.

  • David Overstreet
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    The Urantia Book originated in Chicago 100 years ago and includes in-depth information on prehistoric transactions of The evolutionary peoples of the past including the Mesopotamian and Indus civilization and their close relationships with one another.

  • Hari Unnithan
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    Excellent presentation!

  • caspar coaster
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    They never seem to understand that walls are mainly to keep ANIMALS out of the settlement, not politics. And, for some WATER. Well, theives too.

  • John Rohde
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    Cities with adjacent areas can be part of a system of defence. Medieval european cities often had various wards.

  • Stoneage Permaculture farm
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    Please research on
    Guthi

  • Stoneage Permaculture farm
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    Origin of Indus civilization???????

  • Stoneage Permaculture farm
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    Plz do research on
    Nepami civilization

  • ⚔️King of my Castle⚔️
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    Thanks for the knowledge! One of the greatest under rated civilization on earth

  • Edith Northam
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    Wow! Most interesting lecture I've ever heard. That man knows & loves his work. Thank you for having him and thank you for posting the lecture on youtube.

  • Nalini Deka
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    Wow! Thank you Professor! Wonderful work and dedication unparalleled! Wish you more such discoveries!

  • Suryadevara Rao
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    The professor just throw in the "HORSE" ~ 1,900 BC! Hmm, do we have a picture? probably they want to write the word "horse" before drawing the picture. The earliest RIKS of Rigveda mentions bullock carts not horses….please read "A History of Rigveda". Unfortunately searching for unicorn bones will only lead to frustration but listening to Mrugendra might throw some light on this topic. For that watch …"Identification of Unicorn (Indus-Saraswati Civilization)-Part-3 | Sh. Mrugendra Vinod |. Unless you understand the vedic tradition you can not interpret Sindhu/Saraswati culture in a satisfactory way.

  • Prof Rajesh Maurya
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    good presentation

  • Nishanth Salahudeen
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    35:59 seal shows a clear and proper rhino on top left, 2nd row. This is quite different from the unicorn seen before both in position of horn on head and general aspect ratio of the body. So they really dont seem to be the same thing.

  • Prairie State Genetix Seeds
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    They don't want you to know too much about this civilization… for a certain reason too 🤫

  • joan leaming
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    Fantastic- wish I’d watched it before my assignment on trade links between Mesopotamia and Indus Valley!

  • seyed Ardashir
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    Great lecture! I hope the script could be deciphered!

  • Teresa O'Connell
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    Finally!!!! Someone who goes into the day to day goings on in this Great Civilization.

  • Giancarlo Tescaroli
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    Grazie per questa bellissima conferenza.

  • Yuri Zavorotny
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    "People were buried next not the mothers", but not matriarchial? 😅
    OK, maybe not. We don't even have a name for it — what do you call a society where you wouldn't know who your father was ?…
    No, they didn't have "elites". No wars/violence, not even weapons.. Nothing to kill or die for? And no religion too?
    Imagine no social hierarchy and no wealth concentration. No government bureaucracy, no courts, no law enforcement, and no laws; and quite possibly no writing. How a society could even function like that? For more than 1000 years?
    Well, it isn't hard to do when no one knows who their father is.

  • lambastepirate
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    I wonder if the rhinoceros might be the origin of the unicorn legend, how would one describe it an animal a bit bigger than a horse with a big horn sticking out of it's head?

  • RonJohn63
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    Lecture starts at 5:40.

  • mani kandan
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    Beads in China might come from south india.

  • Vidya Nand Mishra
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    Very detailed lecture with minute observations throwing new life on Indus Civilization.

  • Qalidurut
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    Take to the south" is a way of saying " a person is dead" in south India(kerala)

  • Nixon Mathews
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    Keezhadi is in Tamil Nadu state in India in the southernmost part.

  • Nixon Mathews
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    I can say I belong to Indus civilization because of the graffiti we got in Keezhadi which in the lower stratum and in the middle stratum we have got graffiti and Tamizh and in the upper stratum we got only Tamizh that means we are from Indus. You can see the details, typing Keezhadi excavation.

  • Nixon Mathews
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    Sir, please have a look at the findings of Kezhadi in Southern India, Tamil Nadu where we have found artifacts people used those days including Indus Graffiti marks on the potteries.

  • SkeletalBassman
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    I love how this guy pretends "master of beasts" motif developed independently from the Uruk phase, but then definitively ascribes the "water buffalo" motif to cultural spread coming from the Indus society. OR maybe Dilmun played the middle-man and the two (Uruk and Indus) were in constant contact as soon as the Sumerians started sailing?

  • Simanta Gogoi
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    Thank you Sir for your valuable research. Hopefull to see more on it.

  • Pi Squared
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    What is fascinating is that Indians mastered and used digital number systems from the earliest times – binary, hexadecimal (base 4), decimal, and maybe octal (base 8). The system for small weights was binary – the significance of this is that this requires the least number of weights to measure out any weight in one go. Larger weights were in decimal (base 10) – this allows multiple use of the same weights, and counting the measures on fingers to again reduce the number of weights required. The hexadecimal and octal base number systems are an easier way to count and write down binary quantities.

  • Zippy Wheels
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    I have seen exactly the same bull shape here in taxila. Still stone craftsmen make it on stone decoration pieces.
    This symbol shows protection of strong against evil.

  • Michael Kenoyer
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

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  • Paul Smyres
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    Nice work. Thanks

  • Archer Sterling
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    This is a fascinating lecture. It's strange to think people were trading with each other, covering vast distances.

  • CostaCola
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    Great lecture!

  • Preston Christine
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    I hope you have included L A Waddell in your studies as he claimed to have deciphered the seals of the Indus Valley in 1925. Waddell READ the Indus Script and the seals!

    A scholar by the name of Barton influenced the academic circles to regard this as ridiculous but he was very prejudiced as he adhered to the Semitic view of the appearance of civilization [biblical]. The decipherment is in my book 'The Rise of Man in the Gardens of Sumeria – a biography of L A Waddell 1854-1938; Sussex Academic Press, 2009. It was a thesis in the Ancient History Department Swasea University. It 's a guide to Waddell;s theories and makes reading his books easier. [refer to the Special Collection at the University of Glasgow's Library where Waddell's works are kept]. My book is on Amazon, Chistine Preston.
    FOR INSTANCE: SEAL I: Official Signet of AS S'IAS' the Barugu of Bhrigu [Fire-priest], Lord of Edin. Vedic priest 'Aus'ija Kakshivan' reputed author of several hymns in the Rig Vea, styled 'the far-famed merchant'…The place name is EDIN. Phonetic: KHA, HA AS ASSI AS BAR, MAS U GU, HAR, GA EDIN AS.
    [I can't copy all of it but here is an interesting one:]
    SEAL III identified as Kan priest of Khaitisig [Kaiti city of Hittite city is the name for Harappa] KAN GAN WE[Me] SIB AS KHA, HA ITI SIG.TAB EDIN AS
    SEAL V was the signet of Prince S'US'ENA of Edin later King S'u-sin of the Ur Dynasty of Mesopotamia.
    SEAL VI: official signet of TAX minister of SIRGANA OF AGDU [Sargon I of Agade] identified as the Vedic Daxa S'AKUNI or Sagara of Ayodhya.
    SEAL XIII death amulet of Uggu the Gad, Kad, or Phoenician,a identified as the Vedic Uccaih king of Kuru-Panch[alas] meaning Syrio-Phoenician. Translation: O setting Sun Fish, the sage Uggu the Gad lift up from grave, bring to life, at Edin [O Setting Sun Fish, bring to life the sage Uggu the Gad from his grave].

    See chapters 10 – 13 and Epilogue in my book.

    I am on Facebook christine Preston now Shrewsbury. I have 243 videos on Youtube see Secret Garden II and Mario Gattoaladino.

  • Night Hawk
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    So if only the elite were buried there, what did they do with everyone else?

  • No Name
    Posted at 17:10h, 03 June

    I can't believe you guys publish these lectures for free! What a public service! I cannot thank you enough!

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