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24 Mar Molefi Asante vs. Kwame Ture – Africa and the Foreseeable future.



Pan-Africanism vs Afrocentrism.

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  • sexyrose93
    Posted at 16:37h, 24 March

    We need unity!

  • DionLaurent1
    Posted at 16:37h, 24 March

    I'm cool with that.

  • Shaheed Kamanzi
    Posted at 16:37h, 24 March

    Let's agree do disagree.

  • DionLaurent1
    Posted at 16:37h, 24 March

    Because there are many different examples of Patriarchy. And over human history they are more effective. Don't misunderstand. I am not in favor of Patriarchies either. The concept of male disposability is insulting to me. Though throughout human history, it was a more logical choice. I am egalitarian.Just because it came from whites doesn't make it untrue. It's also true that feminism and government aid to single mother also contributed to the destruction of the Black family.That notion is true.

  • Shaheed Kamanzi
    Posted at 16:37h, 24 March

    If that's the case why you not against Patriarchal systems? There is no such thing as black matriarchy. This whole notion of black matriarchy came from moynihan report, which approached the black family from Eurocentric and western standpoint. In which, women who did not perform their "motherly" duties destroyed the moral fabric of their family because they upset the patriarchal system.

  • DionLaurent1
    Posted at 16:37h, 24 March

    Both men and women were oppressed in Patriarchal systems. And considering how Black boys are treated in matriarchal black families, I can honestly say they too are oppressed.

  • Shaheed Kamanzi
    Posted at 16:37h, 24 March

    Are men subjugated, or oppressed, in a matriarchal system as the way women are in a patriarchal system?

  • DionLaurent1
    Posted at 16:37h, 24 March

    Very simple. Look at the very definition of matriarchy.
    A woman who is the head of a family or tribe.
    An older woman who is powerful within a family or organization.
    Notice it doesn't say headed by a man or woman. It said headed by a woman.
    Now look at the definition of egalitarianism.
    the doctrine of the equality of mankind and the desirability of political and economic and social equality. Is a trend of thought that favors equality for particular categories of, or for all, living entities.

  • Shaheed Kamanzi
    Posted at 16:37h, 24 March

    How about this, you provide your evidence that says that Matriarchy is the opposite of Patriarchy. I think since you don't know what Matriarchy is you can boldly consider Matriarchy egalitarianism but that's false.

  • DionLaurent1
    Posted at 16:37h, 24 March

    I'm not mistaken at all. Matriarchy by it's very definition is the opposite of a Patriarchy. In which it is the women who are in control. As I said, you are not describing a matriarchy. You are describing Egalitarianism. My evidence is the fact that black boys are raised in matriarchal homes and are not generally productive. It's not hard to connect the dots.

  • Shaheed Kamanzi
    Posted at 16:37h, 24 March

    I think you are mistaken. Matriarchy implies that women have equal right compared to men. In matriarchal society, women can be leaders and they can be a source of high moral authority. When you say that matriarchy produces no productive males, what evidences are you using? As I mentioned before, black matriarchy is a myth that can into inception because of oppression and poverty. I think you should read Patrica Collins's "Mammies, Matriarchs, and other Controlling Images".

  • DionLaurent1
    Posted at 16:37h, 24 March

    Actually, matriarchy by it's very definition is a female version of patriarchy. Just with no productive males. I think the word you are looking for is egalitarian. The Black matriarchy in america is no myth. Over 70% of Black families are headed by the mother, NOT the father.That IS a matriarchy. However, they still expect them men to act as if they are in a patriarchy. Patriarchies and matriarchies are about power. Either the power is passed from father to son, or mother and father to daughter.

  • Shaheed Kamanzi
    Posted at 16:37h, 24 March

    Matriarchy is not the male version of patriarchy. Matriarchy means that women and men are equal. Women are seem as subjects rather than objects. The So-called black matriarchy in some Black American communities is a myth. So-called Black matriarchy was more of a survival issue rather than a power issue.

  • DionLaurent1
    Posted at 16:37h, 24 March

    Look at the Black areas in america and you'll see why. Matriarchy basically means Men build it, women run it. And I can't adhere to that shit. In addition, if Black americans came from a matriarchal system, the fact that we got taken over is proof it doesn't work. You can't expect men to adhere to so called "manly" character traits while letting women do whatever they want. A matriarchy produces self entitled women and unproductive men. "Oh I don't have to do anything, my woman'll handle it."

  • Shaheed Kamanzi
    Posted at 16:37h, 24 March

    Why can't you agree with matriarchy?

  • DionLaurent1
    Posted at 16:37h, 24 March

    I can't agree with that matriarchal shit. If anyone looks at anceant Africa, MOST of the kingdoms were PATRIARCHS! Patriarchy ISN'T a european creation. It is seen all over the world BEFORE the first european left their continent.

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