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04 Aug Students Beware – UCAS and universities



Advice and a warning from Professor Michael Merrifield – admissions tutor for physics and astronomy at the University of Nottingham.

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  • spider5600
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    Bear in mind accommodation. Usually if the university that you put down as a firm choice will more or less guarantee you a roof over your head usually in Halls of Residence. But with the tuition fees the price that they are and maintenance money that will be spent on university resources both for academic (Printing, Books) and pleasure (Alcohol and Haribo) It is still worth the university looking for private accommodation for their students.

    Going to your Insurance choice university. If you are quick you can swipe the accommodation that was assigned to a student who then failed to meet the grade conditions of their offer. If not you are kind of on your own in terms of arranging it and the help that offered in arranging accommodation for insurance choice applicants varies widely between universities. Some will operate their own internal letting agency with approved landlords. Some will just have a hastily updated websites of letting agencies within the city and outskirts and say youre classes start in September deal with it. (Maybe not the deal with it part exactly)

  • Jack.K
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    Electronics engineering pretty tough to apply.. my father studied there in the late 70's Hons degree in mechanical engineering. Anyone know if I'm a student abroad with the math and physics needed if it's a must to attend with A levels completed or if there's some equivalent plus filtering test ofc?

  • Nicole K
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    This is what comes of charging tuition fees. Does a market have to be made of everything?

  • Claudio Andrei
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    i knew this already tbh, is just common sense. look around your school and see that no one is really getting those grades but still getting into their firm

  • Squiddich
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    Most of my friends and I have a lower firm and higher insurance

  • Neo Wong
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    3:22 omg

  • Sachin Thenparachacko
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    I have 3 words…what.a.genius

  • Dr Physics
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    My As:
    Physics:a
    Maths:a
    Computer science:a
    Chemistry:a

    All of my components are a.

    My predicted A2 grade is 4A*

    Do you think it's enough for Cambridge B.s. physics.

  • Jeremy Stanger
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    All very well, but Nottingham has been handing out unconditional offers (in some subjects) if you put them as your first choice, for at least the last 3 years.

  • MIKIVAL
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    I really can't understand… like, my grades arre higher than the minimum the course asks for, ok? But should I give them higher or lower (still better than the minimum)? If I put higher grades, am I going receive offers that request more than I can do? if I put lower, will I receive a offer at all???

  • sam clarke
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    Great video. I’ve just finished my post grad in a STEM subject, not at Nottingham, but another top Uni, and I believe this should be publicised much more widely.When I was applying for my undergrad degree Leeds uni asked for BCC entry grades, now they ask A*AA! That’s a massive change and can not be justified until you realise the reasons behind that decision, as exposed in this video.

  • Nina Klos
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    Thank you! I just applied

  • Deimante Norkute
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    So, I need to put the most preferable choice as Conditional Firm and entry requirement may be lowered for me. Am I right? Correct me if I am wrong.

  • k eke
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    when was this filmed??

  • JoeCone99
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    What a g

  • Winthrop S.
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    I like this man, I genuinely do

  • TheRenaissanceman65
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    Complete common sense! What's the point of accepting the highest offer just because it's the highest offer, when you're really feeling better about somewhere else?

    I applied to go to university in 1982 for physics. Cambridge said no, and it has to be said my comprehensive school didn't really understand Oxbridge applications so I wasn't surprised. Being there for the interview rather put me off as well – I felt totally out of place amongst all the public school types. But all the other four (which included Nottingham) said yes. Then the choice has to be, as Prof Merrifield is totally right about, "where do I really want to go?"

    With Cambridge out of the picture, where I really wanted to be was Imperial College. It also happened to have given the lowest offer – CC. Dr Pain, the physics admissions tutor, was certainly playing a game of his own! What he seemed to be doing was deciding who he really liked the look of just from the application forms, and invited who he liked for interview. Which really wasn't an interview at all. He invited 8 candidates at a time and just gave a group talk in which he said that's what the offer will be, followed by a tour and lunch given by students. So we could see the place and ask about what it's really like.

    Looking back on it, Dr Pain's aim seems to have been to pick the class he wanted just from application forms, but also not give any offers without "interview" to make sure they'd also all seen the college first before they decided.

    So what I actually did was simply accept Imperial as my firm offer and not have an insurance offer at all. As Prof Merrifield says, if your insurance offer is higher, your chances of getting that if you fail the firm one are about zero. So I just turned all the rest down.

    Whatever game Dr Pain was playing, it certainly worked. It took the pressure off me up to A levels, and I got AAB which was about the average for the class. (No A* then.) In the second year I was giving those tours. And so it proved to be when I got a 2:2 which was just marginally off 2:1.

    BTW things have certainly changed. Nottingham's offer to me, without interview, was CCC, and Imperial's normal offer for physics now is A*A*A. Don't tell me school exams haven't been dumbed down! How else did I get into Imperial with B in A level maths when they now REQUIRE A*?

  • leo huseyin
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    Its brady

  • David Wilkie
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    "If in doubt, leave it out", excellent advice to redo the entrance exams in your own time and manner with a particular University and course intended. It's possibly better than stepping out of one school into another without real world experience. Ask.

  • Sahil Arora
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    What a man.

  • thechili0149
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    That last point really checkmates the logic behind the UCAS system. This isn't even something that can be debated.

  • Thahid Ullah
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    You have opened my eyes

  • Ayztv
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    advice =on point

  • Chelsea Walsh
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    I got an offer for A*AA and my predicted is AAA if I get AAA will I get in??

  • Harvey Scott
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    My friend got BBC and got into Nottingham

  • Major Fitness TV
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    Very informative! thanks for uploading this ! ! !

  • Maria das Santos
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    I run a small cleaning company in London,why am I being inundated with graduates from major universities with STEM degrees for very menial jobs?Why are they not out earning mega bucks with their fancy degrees?

  • Nitro
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    Someone give this man a cookie!

  • Mohammed Suliman
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    Great advice!

  • yojoe O
    Posted at 03:38h, 04 August

    Knowledge

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